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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: COMPLETE:[LANG.] The Esperanto Teacher by Helen Fryer - mla Reply with quote

The Esperanto Teacher by Helen Fryer.

This project is now complete! All audio files can be found on our catalog page: http://librivox.org/the-esperanto-teacher-by-helen-fryer/

  1. How to claim a part, and 'how it all works' here
    To find a section to record, simply look at point 5. below at the sections. All the ones without names beside them are “up for grabs.” Click "Post reply" at the top left of the screen and tell us which section you’d like to read (include the section number from the left-most column in the reader list, please). Read points 6. to 8. below for what to do before, during and after your recording.

  2. New to recording?
    Please read our Newbie Guide to Recording!

  3. Is there a deadline?
    Target completion date of this project: July 31, 2008 – but try to send your recordings as soon as you can. If you cannot do your section, for whatever reason, just let me know and it’ll go back to the pool. There’s no shame in this; we’re all volunteers and things happen.

  4. Where do I find the text?
    (please only read from this text!):

    http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/8177

    There are links to all of the sections below, as well, for ease of use. It is preferable to use the links below, because I have included the "Key to Exercise" after each exercise. If you use the link above, you have to look up each Key to each exercise individually.

  5. Please claim sections (the numbers in the first column below)!


    (BC admin link)

  6. BEFORE recording:
    Please check the Recording Notes:
    http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6427#6430

    Set your recording software to:
    Bit Rate: 128 kbps
    Sample Rate: 44.1 kHz


  7. DURING recording:
    Make sure you add this to the beginning and end of your recording:
    Start of recording (Intro)
    • "Lesson [number] of "The Esperanto Teacher". - This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. For more information, or to volunteer, please visit: librivox DOT org"
    • If you wish, say:
      "Recording by [your name]"
    • Say:
      "The Esperanto Teacher - A Simple Course for Non-Grammarians, by Helen Fryer. [Lesson #]"

    End of recording
    • At the end of the section, say:
      End of [Lesson #]"
      If you wish, say:
      "Recording by [your name], [city, your blog, podcast, web address]"

      If you read from the main text above, after reading each lesson, go to the "Key to Exercises", say"Key to Exercise" and then read the relevant key. If your lesson is divided into two parts (e.g. 8 and 8a, then read the key to 8 after 8 and then the key to 8a after 8a). All of this is already laid out in the link to each section

    • At the end of the book, say (in addition):
      "End of The Esperanto Teacher, by Helen Fryer."

    Please leave 5 seconds silence at the end of your recording, or 10 seconds for files longer than 30 minutes!

    Also, please remember to check this thread frequently for updates!

  8. AFTER recording:
    Need noise-cleaning?
    Listen to your file through headphones. If you can hear some background noise, you may want to clean it up a bit. The new (free) version 1.3.3. of Audacity (Mac/Win) has much improved noise-cleaning. See this LibriVox wiki page for a complete guide.


    Save files as
    128 kbps MP3
    esperanto_teacher_##_fryer.mp3 (all lower-case) where ## is your section number. (e.g. esperanto_teacher_01_fryer.mp3)
    ID3 V2 tags
    (To find out more about ID3 tags, go to our wiki: http://librivox.org/wiki/moin.cgi/WhatIsID3 )
    Add the following tags to your .mp3 file (how you do this depends on which software you use – if you are unsure about ID3 tags, send me a message). Please mind upper and lower case!

    Title: The Esperanto Teacher - [Section title]
    Artist: Helen Fryer
    Album: The Esperanto Teacher

    Please ignore tags for Genre and Track Number - these will be filled in automatically at the cataloguing stage.

    Transfer of files (completed recordings)
    Please always post in this forum thread when you've sent a file.
    Also, post the length of the recording (file duration: mm:ss) together with the link.

    • Upload your file with the LibriVox Uploader (when your upload is complete, you will receive a link - please post it in this thread):
      http://upload.librivox.org

      (If you have trouble reading the image above, please message an admin)
      You'll need to select the MC, which for this project is: mla - AmethystA
    • If this doesn't work, or you have questions, please check our How To Send Your Recording wiki page.

    I'll need the following information from you when you submit a recording:
    • your name/pseudonym as you want to appear in the LibriVox catalog, and your website URL if you like. These are only necessary if this is your first LibriVox recording.
    • the file size of your .mp3 file/duration of the recording.


Any questions?
Please post below or PM me.

BEFORE VOLUNTEERING:

You don't need to be an Esperantist to volunteer. You can be a native speaker of any language. But volunteers will need to read Esperanto words and sentences. So, if you are not already an Esperantist or familiar with the language to some degree, it is recommended that you listen to the LibriVox AudioBook of "Dr. Esperanto's International Language" by L.L. Zamenhof:

http://librivox.org/dr-esperantos-international-language-introduction-and-complete-grammar-by-ll-zamenhof/

In particular, listen to Sections 03, 05, 06, and 07, which should give you a feel for the sound and structure of the language. It would also be useful to read the relevant section on pronunciation in "The Esperanto Teacher".

It is important to remember that:

(1) You should always stress the second-to-last (penultimate) syllable. So never say ES-per-an-to or es-per-an-TO: say es-per-AN-to.
(2) Every letter has only one sound. There are no silent letters.
(3) If you're English, try to sound the letter "r" (preferably rolled). It's not silent in Esperanto.
(4) If you know any Spanish, Italian or Latin, that would help. Try to pronounce the vowels like that. Alternatively, if you know how to put on a fake Italian or Spanish accent, try to use that. Smile

The following websites also explain how to pronounce Esperanto:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_pronunciation#Orthography_and_pronunciation
http://home.unilang.org/wiki3/index.php/Esperanto_alphabet_and_pronunciation
http://web.mac.com/teisenmann/iWeb/Esperantanaso/1st.html
http://www.alcyone.com/max/lang/esperanto/alphabet

The following websites will be useful in learning Esperanto or to improve your Esperanto skills when recording:

http://www.lernu.net/ (has many resources for beginners)
http://www.cursodeesperanto.com.br/bazo/index.php?en (this is a downloadable course)
http://www.esperanto.net/ (this has resources about Esperanto in many languages)


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicholas19 ....

you might want to take a peek at Readers Wanted/Short works ... / Selected Letters of Beethoven
Composerscott did a fantastic job organizing the text for the reads on this project ( I think this is why he got such a great response to it )

I myself have adopted this policy for collabrative projects ....


Here is the link :
http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9155

1 thing I added is a calculation for est reading length at 130 - 160 wpm...

Highlight text in a word processor and use tools>word count .... this will give you a word count for the section and then divide by 160 and 130 to get the times for read range 130 wpm to 160 wpm ....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Robert.

I'll look into that. But first I need to figure out how to set up that Magic Box and I need an MC.

BTW, do you think we should read the key to exercises for each lesson (i.e. the English translation of the Esperanto text)? I'm not an expert on pedagogy or language learning methods. Or do you think it's sufficient for them to figure it out for themselves through the vocabulary given in each lesson?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicholas ....

An MC will come by soon and pick up the project if Cori wasn't having problems accessing the i-net I bet she'd have been on this already ....

As for the Magic Box the MC will set that up and whoever MC's the project will be the best source of info as to how to navigate the MB ...

Its really simple and very intuitive ... it has a quirk or 2 but you'll get it down fast !!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another resource to help people get to grips with the rhythym and sound of the Esperanto language:

Just noticed this YouTube video about Esperanto entitled "Esperanto is a language with many traits". It's about six and a half minutes long, entirely in Espreranto, but with English subtitles, so you can follow along with what's being said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88YPPl6jJEQ
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Nicholas... the Magic Window (MW) is now installed.... and you're off and running. Since you have done a solo project I am assuming that you know how to use the MW... but if not, let me know and I'll send you instructions. You'll want to enter the titles for each section so that the readers know where to begin and end their recordings (but I'll bet you had already thought of that =)

Also, for server space, here are a couple of options:

1) You can collect the files and proof-listen to them yourself... and then when the project is ready for cataloging you can upload them to our system from your local computer (the drawback is that there won't be a back-up copy on a server if something happens to your machine).

2) You could ask someone with server space to set you up with uploading instructions as described on this page: http://librivox.org/wiki/moin.cgi/HowToSendYourRecording ... ab2525, Anita (a.r.dobbs), and David (earthcalling) all have server space that they have offered to share ... contact one of them (or anyone else you know of) to see if you can use some space for this project.

If you have any questions... don't hesitate to ask me, as I'm here to help you out as you go along =)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thistlechick....

I was thinking maybe you should delete my first post in this thread this will leave Nicholas with Posts #1 and #2

Nicholas has some good prep and Pronunciation resources and he could possibly then edit those links together in to post #2 ( after my post is removed )

Just an idea to keep things easily available and organized Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert, thanks for the idea... Nicholas, let me know if you would like me to re-arrange any of the posts in the thread as Robert suggested (you can also edit your original post to include additional resources =)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want, you can use my server. Just post if you want instructions
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ab2525, thanks for your kind offer. David has also offered server space, so I'm currently planning to use that. I'm still working out how to use FTP.

thistlechick, I've finished Sections 00 and 01, but think I should start uploading as soon as possible, rather than waiting until I've figured out how to ftp expertly. So I've uploaded them directly onto David's server.

Here's the link:

Section 00:
http://librivox.earthcallingdavid.com/cgi-bin/uploader//upload.cgi?a=show&file=6573706572616e746f5f746561636865725f30305f66727965722e6d7033&big=1

Section 01:
http://librivox.earthcallingdavid.com/cgi-bin/uploader//upload.cgi?a=show&file=6573706572616e746f5f746561636865725f30315f66727965722e6d7033&big=1

Robert, were you planning on proof listening to this book, or just volunteering to read some lessons? If you want to proof listen, feel free do so. But don't make me burden you, if you're busy. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicholas .....

Quote:
Robert, were you planning on proof listening to this book, or just volunteering to read some lessons? If you want to proof listen, feel free do so. But don't make me burden you, if you're busy. Smile


Never a burden my friend your reads are expertly done its a breeze and I enjoy it Wink

I am going on a mini vacation mon/tues ... I have an edit to finish this eve ...

I will read at least 1 section when I return ....

I think it might be a good idea for you to get a few sections done and then post in Listeners wanted ... this will hellp both you and Esperanto gain some greater exposure at LibriVox ( help strike up some interest )

If there is a need for PL when I return (wed)... I will be glad to assist in that area also .....

Keep em coming !!![/quote]
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've recorded Sections 00 to 06 so far, and have posted it in the Listeners Wanted section.

If anyone is even remotely interested in volunteering for this project, don't feel shy! Learn as you go along! Most people aren't born speaking Esperanto (though there are some native speakers). Esperanto is a lot easier than you think it is. Trust me. Smile

Volunteer! Volunteer! Volunteer!

Read! Read! Read! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject: Sections 7 and 8 Reply with quote

I'm going to give sections 7 and 8 a go. I need to finish my current task but shouldn't take long.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. Thanks daxm. I've signed you up. Very Happy

It's best to use the links which I have made for each lesson, because I've included the "Key to Exercises". If you have any questions, let me know.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to America for three weeks to visit my grandparents. I should have some internet access, but if you don't hear from me, you'll know why.

In any case, keep volunteering while I'm gone. Smile

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